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2004-03-31 03:34 AM
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paprika
最愛: KiKi&球球
等級: 風雲使者
文章: 532
註冊時間: 2003-03-14
最近來訪: 2008-01-14
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這是我在ptt貓版上看到有人po的 網址是 http://dvm.myweb.hinet.net/Hill's%20diet.htm 不知道有沒有人為了希爾斯斷貨而苦惱 可以參考一下喔 我自己是沒做過啦 因為我很懶 ^"^ 不過我想大家為了自己的愛貓 為牠下廚也是一件很值得的事喔 *^__^*
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2004-03-31 06:53 AM
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sisi
最愛: 加菲裘天使小布貝克漢
等級: 法王
威望: 1
文章: 6758
註冊時間: 2002-12-26
最近來訪: 2009-08-20
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哇 真好來去轉寄給哈姆知道.. 他有心臟病 需要吃處方飼料阿
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2004-03-31 07:51 AM
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PINGO
最愛: 牛ㄋㄟ,奶油.樂樂
等級: 法王
威望: 1
文章: 7378
註冊時間: 2004-03-06
最近來訪: 2006-05-14
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這個網址查不到ㄝ
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2004-03-31 07:54 AM
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靖熙
最愛: 美加、健太、妹妹
等級: 精靈
文章: 207
註冊時間: 2004-02-06
最近來訪: 2012-04-17
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為什麼沒有幼貓的配方?
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2004-03-31 08:01 AM
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may2410tw
等級: 天王
威望: 4
文章: 22971
註冊時間: 2003-01-07
最近來訪: 2007-12-06
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下面引用由PINGO在 2004/03/31 08:51am 發表的內容: 這個網址查不到ㄝ
從去年底美國爆發狂牛症,使得美系廠商的飼料無法進口,造成許多飼主為自己心愛的寶貝四處奔走尋找食物,一般飼料還可找到替代品,但是由希爾思(Hill's)所生產的處方飼料卻難以找到替代品,當然法國皇家也有推出處方飼料,但是貨源仍不是很充足。 以下為希爾思公司所提供的替代方案,提供給有需求的飼主自行烹調,暫時代替處方飼料,等到禁令解除時再恢復以處方飼料餵飼。 1.健康成犬自製配方(符合AAFCO規定) 2.健康成貓自製配方 (符合AAFCO規定) 3.成年貓狗低蛋白質 / 低磷自製配方(適合腎臟,肝臟病患畜) 4.成年貓狗低脂肪自製配方(適合高脂血症患畜) 5.成年貓狗低鈉、低礦物質自製配方(適合心臟病、高血壓患畜) 6.成年犬低蛋白/低嘌呤自製配方(適合腎臟病、非炎症性結石患畜) 7.成年犬低殘餘自製配方(適合胃腸道疾病、胰臟炎患畜) 8.成分替代表 ****************** try again~
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2004-03-31 08:40 AM
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olulu
等級: 大天使
文章: 1669
註冊時間: 2003-10-10
最近來訪: 2013-11-11
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裡頭有些單字我和希爾斯的獸醫師討論過 他們是找人翻譯的,那些沒有專業知識又沒校正,有些字張冠李戴錯了 像其中有個是"帶骨餐"的,並不是肉骨頭,他的單位是公克,哪根骨頭只有1.2公克重??? 原文是BONE MEAL,是指骨粉,鈣粉,是要提供鈣質的,所以才說可以用碳酸氫鈣代替! 另外什麼叫離子化的鹽? 鹽本來就是離子化的東西,什麼叫離子化的鹽?? 原文叫Iodine SALT,明顯的把IODINE和IONED兩個字弄錯了,長得很像但IONED才是離子!!!!用離子是不合理的!!!!!!在這兒是是指碘鹽,添加了碘酸鉀的食鹽要預防甲狀腺問題的.....而台灣的高級食鹽都是有加了碘的,國外則否,所以才強調碘鹽(在這兒就當一般高級食鹽就好了)!!!!!替代鹽就是低鈉鹽... 這個版本是未修改過的,請先不要連結,希爾斯的獸醫師有發現錯誤,而且.... 是挺誇張的錯誤
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2004-03-31 09:55 AM
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abbyma
最愛: 阿比+小多
等級: 老法王
威望: 1
文章: 10688
註冊時間: 2003-07-11
最近來訪: 2009-08-14
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謝謝黑嚕嚕的專業意見 那對於自製貓食 你有什麼建議嗎?
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2004-03-31 11:25 AM
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NARUMI
最愛: 瀧.七.琉.夏.花
等級: 法老
威望: 2
文章: 30934
註冊時間: 2003-05-04
最近來訪: 2016-06-05
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我只知道心臟.腎臟自製狗食....汗汗汗...
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2004-03-31 12:15 PM
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olulu
等級: 大天使
文章: 1669
註冊時間: 2003-10-10
最近來訪: 2013-11-11
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下面引用由abbyma在 2004/03/31 10:55am 發表的內容: 謝謝黑嚕嚕的專業意見 那對於自製貓食 你有什麼建議嗎?
...有時間有空的話,貓兒對自製貓食是比較捧場的 只是愛吃不吃的話,這個比乾飼料麻煩..不能放太久 可以先少量試試看吃不吃 有些材料是可以常備的,像自製貓用高湯..骨粉,小蘇打 如果家中有心不全或腎不全的貓咪自製貓食是很好的 只是一定要完全照處方,不要自做主張更改成分比例
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2004-03-31 08:57 PM
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catcandy
最愛: 哥哥+maru+咬人貓
等級: 天尊
威望: 8
文章: 55517
註冊時間: 2003-07-11
最近來訪: 2011-11-18
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請問歐嚕嚕 那些東西都可以買到嗎?? 調好的東西可以放多久?
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2004-04-01 02:30 PM
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olulu
等級: 大天使
文章: 1669
註冊時間: 2003-10-10
最近來訪: 2013-11-11
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下面引用由catcandy在 2004/03/31 09:57pm 發表的內容: 請問歐嚕嚕 那些東西都可以買到嗎?? 調好的東西可以放多久?
都很容易買到 食譜也考量到方便性 有提供一週份量的準備 依其比例可以做出一週份的食物
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2004-04-01 08:45 PM
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cacaforever
最愛: M/H/黑/小M
等級: 法師
文章: 3148
註冊時間: 2003-12-31
最近來訪: 2008-08-21
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下面引用由olulu在 2004/03/31 09:40am 發表的內容: 裡頭有些單字我和希爾斯的獸醫師討論過 他們是找人翻譯的,那些沒有專業知識又沒校正,有些字張冠李戴錯了 像其中有個是"帶骨餐"的,並不是肉骨頭,他的單位是公克,哪根骨頭只有1.2公克重??? 原文是BONE M ...
這個食譜我在我們這邊的動物醫院也有看到一模一樣的咧 內容寫得和網站上是相同的,也是希爾思公司提供的 那這樣的意思是不是希爾思本身提供錯了啊
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2004-04-01 09:22 PM
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olulu
等級: 大天使
文章: 1669
註冊時間: 2003-10-10
最近來訪: 2013-11-11
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下面引用由cacaforever在 2004/04/01 09:45pm 發表的內容: 這個食譜我在我們這邊的動物醫院也有看到一模一樣的咧 內容寫得和網站上是相同的,也是希爾思公司提供的 那這樣的意思是不是希爾思本身提供錯了啊
不完全是 只是其中有一些的名詞不正確,還迷有更正 您試做過嗎?找得到帶骨餐是什麼東西嗎? 因為校正沒做好哩
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2004-04-14 12:20 PM
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bonjourmiao
最愛: 喵米
等級: 精靈
文章: 227
註冊時間: 2003-03-08
最近來訪: 2008-03-11
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這是給正常的 成貓(adult cat) 的DIY食譜 不過是英文版的 ------------------------ Sample Diets (for dogs and cats) 網址 http://www.api4animals.org/508.htm ------------------------ Sample Diets Disclaimer: Before you start to feed your companion animal a home-prepared diet, API strongly recommends that you discuss your decision with your veterinarian or a holistic veterinarian in your area. (For a list of holistic veterinary practitioners, contact the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association at 410-569-0795, or check the directories at www.altvetmed.com). API also suggests you obtain one or more of the following books, so that you have a more complete understanding of canine and/or feline nutritional needs. (API does not sell these books.) It is essential that you follow any diet's recommendations closely, including all ingredients and supplements. Failure to do so may result in serious health consequences for your animal companion. Dr. Pitcairn's Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats. Richard Pitcairn, DVM, and Susan Pitcairn. Rodale Press. ISBN 0875962432. Natural Cat Care. Celeste Yarnall. Charles E. Tuttle Co., Inc. ISBN 1885203632. Natural Dog Care. Celeste Yarnall. Charles E. Tuttle Co., Inc. ISBN 1885203470. The Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog. Wendy Volhard and Kerry Brown, DVM. Howell Book House. ISBN 0876055609. Give Your Dog a Bone. Dr. Ian Billinghurst. Bridge Printery. ISBN 064610281. Home-Prepared Dog and Cat Diets: the Healthful Alternative. Donald R. Strombeck, DVM. Iowa State University Press. ISBN 0813821495. It's for the Animals! Natural Care & Resources. Helen L. McKinnon. C.S.A. Inc. Available from www.ItsForTheAnimals.com; P.O. Box 1913; Fairview, NC 28730; toll-free 1-888-339-IFTA (4382); info@itsfortheanimals.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These recipes are intended to get you started, to supplement a commercial diet or to suffice until you can obtain more information or a book on the subject. They have not been balanced for long-term use. These are "mix-and-match" diets. Select one ingredient from each category (protein, starch if applicable), and add up to one cup of pur嶪d raw or lightly steamed vegetables (up to three or four at a time of the following: broccoli, squash, sweet potato, cabbage, peas, carrots, green beans, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, kale). Ingredients may also be split, 1/2 of one plus 1/2 of another from the same category. Use organically-raised meat sources whenever possible to minimize antibiotic and hormone residues; this is required if feeding liver. The importance of variety cannot be overstressed. (This applies to any and all diets and recipes!) Do not get in the habit of feeding just one or two combinations of ingredients. Pay attention to your animal companion's health: his weight, activity level, skin and coat quality. If these are not maintaining or improving, consult your veterinarian about changing elements of the diet. To make a large batch of food, mix protein source, starch source (if applicable), oil, vegetables, and calcium together. Freeze in meal-sized portions. The other supplements should be added fresh at each meal. The vitamin-mineral supplement should be a good quality, human-type supplement. Some of the cheaper human supplements, particularly those with a heavy coating, are not well digested by people and will not be by animals. To check, submerge a tablet in a glass of water with a splash of vinegar in it. (This mimics the acid environment of the stomach.) The tablet should dissolve within about 20 minutes. The average human supplement is designed for a 150-pound adult. A cat should get about 1/6 to 1/10 of a human supplement. A dog dosage can be calculated from the weight of the dog compared to 150 pounds. Do not overdose! Some vitamins and many minerals are toxic at high doses. Alternatively, you can use a specially made dog or cat vitamin supplement, such as Pet Tabs or Nu-Cat. There are many good animal supplements available today that can be found at your local feed store or health food store. Many supplements from the health food store require that a human take 4-6 tablets a day; a single tablet might be perfect for a smaller animal's daily needs. You can grind up the supplements with a coffee grinder or mortar and pestle to add to the food; or get one that comes in capsules, and open the capsule to empty the powder into the food. Bone meal must be an edible, human grade. Do not use bone meal intended for gardening or plants. Probiotics include acidophilus and other "good" bacteria. They help maintain your companion animal's normal bacterial population and prevent colonization by disease-causing bacteria. Digestive enzymes are important to keep the pancreas from being overworked, and to aid digestion so your animal companion gets the greatest benefit from the food she eats. Meat may be fed cooked or raw. (While many holistic veterinarians recommend feeding raw meat, there are potential risks to your companion animal's health from bacterially contaminated meat. Please discuss this issue with your veterinarian before feeding raw meat.) If feeding raw, it is recommended that meat be frozen for 72 hours at -4 degrees F prior to use. Most meats can be refrozen one time safely, so once you mix the meal, it can be put back in the freezer until thawed for feeding. Always follow standard safe meat handling procedures. IMPORTANT!! With any diet change, please go slowly and gradually! Your animal companion's tastes and digestive system need time to accommodate to new foods. Too rapid a change may result in diarrhea, vomiting, refusal to eat, or other problems. This is especially important with older animals, sick animals, and cats. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIET FOR ADULT DOGS(狗狗食譜) (內容省略) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIET FOR ADULT CATS(貓咪食譜) Feed an adult cat as much as she will eat in 20-30 minutes. Refrigerate leftovers promptly. Feed adult cats twice a day. Recipe provides approximately 3 servings. CHOOSE ONE PROTEIN SOURCE: (meat amounts given in raw weight) 1/2 lb boneless chicken breast or thigh, minced 6 oz ground turkey, or minced turkey (dark meat) 1/2 lb lean beef, minced 1/2 lb beef, chicken or turkey heart, ground or minced About 3 times a week, include 1 chopped hard-boiled or scrambled egg Optional: once a week, substitute 4 oz organic liver for 1/2 of any meat source Optional: once every 2 weeks, substitute 4 oz tuna (packed in water, no salt), 6 oz sardines (canned) or 5 oz salmon (canned, with bones) for any meat source. Do not use canned fish as a protein source for cats who are prone to urinary tract problems. Optional: for cats needing a lower protein diet, add cup cooked white rice. SUPPLEMENTS: 2 tsp olive oil, or 1 tsp olive and 1 tsp flaxseed oil 300 mg calcium (as carbonate or citrate), or about 1 slightly rounded tsp bone meal (human grade) (if using canned fish with bones, decrease calcium to 1/4 regular amount) 1-2 Tbsp pur嶪d vegetables -- many cats prefer their veggies lightly steamed -- or vegetable baby food (without onion powder) 1/4 tsp salt substitute (potassium chloride) -- give 3 or 4 times a week 1 cat-size dose of multiple vitamin-mineral supplement (human quality) or cat vitamin 1 probiotic/digestive enzyme supplement 80 mg taurine (about of one 250 mg taurine capsule or tablet, powdered) (omit if using cat vitamin) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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2004-04-14 12:33 PM
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bonjourmiao
最愛: 喵米
等級: 精靈
文章: 227
註冊時間: 2003-03-08
最近來訪: 2008-03-11
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API是一個美國的動物保護組織http://www.api4animals.org/default.htm API有幾篇文章跟寵物飼料有關,寫得不錯而且很真實. 有空看看哦. What's Really in Pet Food(寵物食品的真相) http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm Selecting a Commercial Pet Food(如何選擇商業寵物食品) http://www.api4animals.org/689.htm Sample Diets(簡易食譜for狗狗 貓貓) http://www.api4animals.org/508.htm
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